Quincy Jones Has Died

[Norbert]

The most Beatles-related thing I know of about Jones were his claims
some years back about the Beatles' -- particularly Ringo's and Paul's --
supposed incompetence as musicians.

There was a corpulent, foul-mouthed character (now also deceased) in RMB
who parroted all this nonsense, but like a true Trumpian, didn't bother
to verify a word of it. Jones claimed that Ringo was unable to complete
a four-bar passage, so he sent Ringo off to drink lager and have a
shephard's pie. A jazz guy was called in to play the part, and he "tore
it up," according to Jones.

However, the sound of a jazz guy "tearing it up" is nowhere to be heard
on the record.

[super70s]

Post by Norbert
The most Beatles-related thing I know of about Jones were his claims
some years back about the Beatles' -- particularly Ringo's and Paul's --
supposed incompetence as musicians.

Paul at least seems to hold no hard feelings, he posted a lengthy
tribute to Instagram. Shortly after the interview you referred to he
said Jones called him up and "explained the situation" (without going
into specifics) and that the two "laughed about" the incident.

If Ringo doesn't post his own tribute that might speak volumes. Or that
he simply wasn't as friendly with Jones as Paul in later years.

[Norbert]

i thought McCartney's response had an edge. He said something to the
effect that Jones was "getting on in years," implying Jones's statements
were the product of senility.

[Matt]

Post by super70s

Post by Norbert
The most Beatles-related thing I know of about Jones were his claims
some years back about the Beatles' -- particularly Ringo's and Paul's --
supposed incompetence as musicians.

Paul at least seems to hold no hard feelings, he posted a lengthy
tribute to Instagram. Shortly after the interview you referred to he
said Jones called him up and "explained the situation" (without going
into specifics) and that the two "laughed about" the incident.
If Ringo doesn't post his own tribute that might speak volumes. Or that
he simply wasn't as friendly with Jones as Paul in later years.

I knew him personally through a musician friend when he lived in California
and I can assure you that he was narcissistic, arrogant, jealous and
insufferable.
Anyone who knew him knows that very well.

Whether he was good for jazz is another matter.

As for Paul, he was always very conciliatory with those kinds of people, Paul
doesn't want to be angry with anybody, and you could see that in his
relationship with John and that monster Yoko.

[super70s]

Post by Matt

Post by super70s

Post by Norbert
The most Beatles-related thing I know of about Jones were his claims
some years back about the Beatles' -- particularly Ringo's and Paul's --
supposed incompetence as musicians.

Paul at least seems to hold no hard feelings, he posted a lengthy
tribute to Instagram. Shortly after the interview you referred to he
said Jones called him up and "explained the situation" (without going
into specifics) and that the two "laughed about" the incident.
If Ringo doesn't post his own tribute that might speak volumes. Or that
he simply wasn't as friendly with Jones as Paul in later years.

I knew him personally through a musician friend when he lived in California
and I can assure you that he was narcissistic, arrogant, jealous and
insufferable.
Anyone who knew him knows that very well.

I am not really surprised. Senility could have worsened a personality
problem that was already there (e.g. Donald Trump).

Post by Matt
Whether he was good for jazz is another matter.
As for Paul, he was always very conciliatory with those kinds of people, Paul
doesn't want to be angry with anybody, and you could see that in his
relationship with John and that monster Yoko.

Good point, Allen Klein notwithstanding. lol.

[Geoff]

Post by Matt

Post by super70s

Post by Norbert
The most Beatles-related thing I know of about Jones were his claims
some years back about the Beatles' -- particularly Ringo's and Paul's --
supposed incompetence as musicians.

Paul at least seems to hold no hard feelings, he posted a lengthy
tribute to Instagram. Shortly after the interview you referred to he
said Jones called him up and "explained the situation" (without going
into specifics) and that the two "laughed about" the incident.
If Ringo doesn't post his own tribute that might speak volumes. Or that
he simply wasn't as friendly with Jones as Paul in later years.

I knew him personally through a musician friend when he lived in California
and I can assure you that he was narcissistic, arrogant, jealous and
insufferable.
Anyone who knew him knows that very well.
Whether he was good for jazz is another matter.
As for Paul, he was always very conciliatory with those kinds of people, Paul
doesn't want to be angry with anybody, and you could see that in his
relationship with John and that monster Yoko.

That is also my understanding. Quincy a highly skilled musician and
producer. And a conceited jerk.

[Norbert]

Jones's death has led some commentators to revisit that "We Are the
World" doc.

I find the song wretched and the show full of cringeworthy moments,
e.g., all the deference towards Michael Jackson.

[Geoff]

Post by Norbert
Jones's death has led some commentators to revisit that "We Are the
World" doc.
I find the song wretched and the show full of cringeworthy moments,
e.g., all the deference towards Michael Jackson.

MJ - "we are the children" Hmmmmmm ......

[Norbert]

The lyrics and music to "We Are the World" are almost Yokolike -- that
is to say, childish-verging-on-infantile.

[Norbert]

In that documentary on the making of the trite "We Are the World, woman
participants in the recording fought to be beside Michael Jackson. Good
luck to them if they were hoping for any sort of relationship.