Discussion:
Jewish doctor exploits dying George
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Salvadorwriter
2004-05-16 18:34:20 UTC
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The exchange below is a discussion about the
following article:

Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621

[Someone else posted the article on another thread and
gave it a confusing title. So I'm starting a new thread.]

I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001. Lederman remarked
that George had played Hava Nagila on his death bed,
apparently a show of respect for Lederman. After
posting my comment about George playing Hava Nagila,
some woman (presumably a Jewish woman) verbally
assaulted me for mentioning that Lederman is
Jewish.

Here's the exchange.

=====
[Salvador]
I don't know if the [National Van Guard]
article [about Dr. Lederman] is completely
true or not, but I recall seeing George's
Jewish doctor on TV a day or two after the
news of George's death was announced to
the world in late 2001.
I recall the doctor (I assume it was Lederman)
saying how he and George had become good
friends. That seems reasonable, under the
circumstances. Then the Yiddish physician said
something quite bizarre. I'm paraphrasing, but
"I brought a guitar to George during his
final hours and asked if he could play
a song for me. So he played Hava Nagila."
Anything's possible, but it's difficult
to imagine George playing a weird song
like Hava Nagila on his death bed.
I don't recall if the doctor said his kids
were present or not, but he definitely
said George played Hava Nagila.
So there seems to be at least a grain of
truth in the article.
Who gives a flying leap if [Dr. Lederman is]
Jewish or not[?]...
[Salvador]
Apparently you care a great deal. What are you
trying to hide? Lederman's Jewish heritage was
mentioned in the original article, which is the
topic of this thread. In fact, I recall he said
it himself in the TV appearance where he claimed
George played Hava Nagila on his deathbed.
So if you want to [conceal] Lederman's ethnicity,
you're a bit late. The cat's out the bag. :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Huh? :| Wha?? :/ ...You sound terribly nuts.
Tell me, Salvador, why do you pretend to be
normal?
[Salvador]
Is this broad on Valium, or what? :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Nope. I just find it absurd that someone would take
another's words and turn it around to suit his own
agenda.
You're the one who made rude remarks over something
completely trivial. "Who gives a flying leap if he's
Jewish or not[?]...You sound terribly nuts."

You started making personal, trivial attacks over
something completely innocent, then you start crying
when I reciprocate. How immature.

[Salvador]
Lederman's Jewish heritage was mentioned in the
original article, which is the topic of this
thread. In fact, I recall he said it himself
in the TV appearance where he claimed George
played Hava Nagila on his deathbed.
So if you want to [conceal] Lederman's ethnicity,
you're a bit late. The cat's out the bag. :-)
[Tom/Donna]
What I was trying to say is who the heck cares
what his beliefs are. So now, I guess, you'll
dissect and misinterpret that sentence, too.
[Salvador]
Relax, Tom/Donna. Don't get your bowels in an
uproar. No one is out to get you. Nobody wants
to cause you any harm. Obviously you're sensitive
about certain issues, and we all are; but let's
not become paranoid, just because I pointed out
that a particular individual is Jewish.
[Tom/Donna]
Pointing it out was unnecessary and had nothing
to do with this lawsuit or anything that I was
saying....
As I pointed out earlier, you were the one
to take off the gloves and make personal,
insulting remarks. Consequently, I shall
reciprocate. You are a lying fecal-head.
You know good and well that point out
Dr. Lederman's Jewish heritage was
completely relevant to my point that
Lederman claimed George Harrison played
Hava Nagila on his death bed. Assuming George
really did play Hava Nagila, the story doesn't
make sense unless you state that Dr. Lederman
is Jewish. I didn't state it as an insult,
merely a fact that is relevant to the
Hava Nagila story. Then you went ballistic.

Your attitude is a perfect example of what is
wrong with Judaism today. Many Jewish people
have no problem whatsoever attacking and
belittling Christianity or Islam, but if a
Gentile so much as utters the word Jew, he/she
is slammed by assholes like you.

Salvador

===

Ordering information for Salvador Astucia's books can be found at
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/raveningwolf/

(About 150 pages from "Lennon book" (558 pages total) can be viewed
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TAR
2004-05-16 19:06:36 UTC
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Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001....<snip>
I [Donna] think that Salvadorwriter is going too far with this stupid
nonsense, and I'd be very happy if he'd just go away.
Susan
2004-05-16 19:25:25 UTC
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Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001....<snip>
I [Donna] think that Salvadorwriter is going too far with this stupid
nonsense, and I'd be very happy if he'd just go away.
You just now came to that realization??!!
BigScience
2004-05-16 20:32:16 UTC
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i keep blocking him but his new post constantly appear.
TAR
2004-05-16 22:06:39 UTC
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Post by Susan
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001....<snip>
I [Donna] think that Salvadorwriter is going too far with this stupid
nonsense, and I'd be very happy if he'd just go away.
You just now came to that realization??!!
Of course not, Susan. I've been happily skipping his posts for a very
long time. I only entered into this thread because Dr. Lederman's name
caught my eye. My intention was to set the record straight on the legal
case, not to discuss anyone's religion. Thanks to you-know-who, they
evolved into some of the stupidest "conversations" I've ever had on
usenet.

- Donna
Susan
2004-05-17 00:59:02 UTC
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Post by TAR
Of course not, Susan. I've been happily skipping his posts for a very
long time. I only entered into this thread because Dr. Lederman's name
caught my eye. My intention was to set the record straight on the legal
case, not to discuss anyone's religion. Thanks to you-know-who, they
evolved into some of the stupidest "conversations" I've ever had on
usenet.
- Donna
David turns things around anyway he chooses for his own personal amusement.
TAR
2004-05-17 02:51:51 UTC
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Post by Susan
Post by TAR
Of course not, Susan. I've been happily skipping his posts for a very
long time. I only entered into this thread because Dr. Lederman's name
caught my eye. My intention was to set the record straight on the legal
case, not to discuss anyone's religion. Thanks to you-know-who, they
evolved into some of the stupidest "conversations" I've ever had on
usenet.
- Donna
David turns things around anyway he chooses for his own personal amusement.
No kidding. And he doesn't even wait in order to make it less obvious
for everyone. He jumps right into it. What a silly, silly man. Quite
humorous and entertaining, though, in a strange sort of way.
Susan
2004-05-17 20:30:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by TAR
Post by Susan
Post by TAR
Of course not, Susan. I've been happily skipping his posts for a very
long time. I only entered into this thread because Dr. Lederman's name
caught my eye. My intention was to set the record straight on the legal
case, not to discuss anyone's religion. Thanks to you-know-who, they
evolved into some of the stupidest "conversations" I've ever had on
usenet.
- Donna
David turns things around anyway he chooses for his own personal amusement.
No kidding. And he doesn't even wait in order to make it less obvious
for everyone. He jumps right into it. What a silly, silly man. Quite
humorous and entertaining, though, in a strange sort of way.
I don't think he humorous or entertaining in any sort of way.
Salastucia
2004-05-16 22:21:16 UTC
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[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621

Donna was crying the blues, claiming I was quoting
people out of context. Please note that she clipped
the URL to an article about Dr. Gilbert Lederman
and his cancer patient, George Harrison, which
was the basis for this thread and a previous thread
which she complained about. Now that she's been
caught clipping critical URLs, it looks like she's the
one who is unwilling to show context. What a
crybaby and a sorehead.
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001....<snip>
[Donna]
Post by TAR
I [Donna] think that Salvadorwriter is going too
far with this stupid nonsense, and I'd be very
happy if he'd just go away.
Sorry, but it bothers me when people play the Jew
card rather than to discuss things like adults.

Salvador

==== [original article] =====
Subject: Jewish doctor exploits dying George
From: ***@cs.com (Salvadorwriter)
Date: 5/16/04 2:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <***@mb-m05.news.cs.com>

The exchange below is a discussion about the
following article:

Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621

[Someone else posted the article on another thread and
gave it a confusing title. So I'm starting a new thread.]

I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001. Lederman remarked
that George had played Hava Nagila on his death bed,
apparently a show of respect for Lederman. After
posting my comment about George playing Hava Nagila,
some woman (presumably a Jewish woman) verbally
assaulted me for mentioning that Lederman is
Jewish.

Here's the exchange.

=====
[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
I don't know if the [National Van Guard]
article [about Dr. Lederman] is completely
true or not, but I recall seeing George's
Jewish doctor on TV a day or two after the
news of George's death was announced to
the world in late 2001.
I recall the doctor (I assume it was Lederman)
saying how he and George had become good
friends. That seems reasonable, under the
circumstances. Then the Yiddish physician said
something quite bizarre. I'm paraphrasing, but
"I brought a guitar to George during his
final hours and asked if he could play
a song for me. So he played Hava Nagila."
Anything's possible, but it's difficult
to imagine George playing a weird song
like Hava Nagila on his death bed.
I don't recall if the doctor said his kids
were present or not, but he definitely
said George played Hava Nagila.
So there seems to be at least a grain of
truth in the article.
Who gives a flying leap if [Dr. Lederman is]
Jewish or not[?]...
[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Apparently you care a great deal. What are you
trying to hide? Lederman's Jewish heritage was
mentioned in the original article, which is the
topic of this thread. In fact, I recall he said
it himself in the TV appearance where he claimed
George played Hava Nagila on his deathbed.
So if you want to [conceal] Lederman's ethnicity,
you're a bit late. The cat's out the bag. :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Huh? :| Wha?? :/ ...You sound terribly nuts.
Tell me, Salvador, why do you pretend to be
normal?
[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Is this broad on Valium, or what? :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Post by TAR
Nope. I just find it absurd that someone would take
another's words and turn it around to suit his own
agenda.
You're the one who made rude remarks over something
completely trivial. "Who gives a flying leap if he's
Jewish or not[?]...You sound terribly nuts."

You started making personal, trivial attacks over
something completely innocent, then you start crying
when I reciprocate. How immature.

[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Lederman's Jewish heritage was mentioned in the
original article, which is the topic of this
thread. In fact, I recall he said it himself
in the TV appearance where he claimed George
played Hava Nagila on his deathbed.
So if you want to [conceal] Lederman's ethnicity,
you're a bit late. The cat's out the bag. :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
What I was trying to say is who the heck cares
what his beliefs are. So now, I guess, you'll
dissect and misinterpret that sentence, too.
[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Relax, Tom/Donna. Don't get your bowels in an
uproar. No one is out to get you. Nobody wants
to cause you any harm. Obviously you're sensitive
about certain issues, and we all are; but let's
not become paranoid, just because I pointed out
that a particular individual is Jewish.
[Tom/Donna]
Post by TAR
Pointing it out was unnecessary and had nothing
to do with this lawsuit or anything that I was
saying....
As I pointed out earlier, you were the one
to take off the gloves and make personal,
insulting remarks. Consequently, I shall
reciprocate. You are a lying fecal-head.
You know good and well that point out
Dr. Lederman's Jewish heritage was
completely relevant to my point that
Lederman claimed George Harrison played
Hava Nagila on his death bed. Assuming George
really did play Hava Nagila, the story doesn't
make sense unless you state that Dr. Lederman
is Jewish. I didn't state it as an insult,
merely a fact that is relevant to the
Hava Nagila story. Then you went ballistic.

Your attitude is a perfect example of what is
wrong with Judaism today. Many Jewish people
have no problem whatsoever attacking and
belittling Christianity or Islam, but if a
Gentile so much as utters the word Jew, he/she
is slammed by assholes like you.

Salvador


===

Ordering information for Salvador Astucia's books can be found at
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/raveningwolf/

(About 150 pages from "Lennon book" (558 pages total) can be viewed
at http://www.jfkmontreal.com )
TAR
2004-05-16 22:30:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Salvadorwriter
[Salvador]
Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621
Donna was crying the blues, claiming I was quoting
people out of context. Please note that she clipped
the URL to an article about Dr. Gilbert Lederman
and his cancer patient, George Harrison, which
was the basis for this thread and a previous thread
which she complained about. Now that she's been
caught clipping critical URLs, it looks like she's the
one who is unwilling to show context. What a
crybaby and a sorehead.
What the hell is this strange person talking about?? Mommy, mommy,
please make him stop! :O
Post by Salvadorwriter
Sorry, but it bothers me when people play the Jew
card rather than to discuss things like adults.
Salvador
I only like to play poker. I used to play War and 500 Rummy when I
younger. But poker is all I pretty much enjoy now... especially on the
slots.

- Donna
Salastucia
2004-05-16 22:41:19 UTC
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[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621
Donna was crying the blues, claiming I was quoting
people out of context. Please note that she clipped
the URL to an article about Dr. Gilbert Lederman
and his cancer patient, George Harrison, which
was the basis for this thread and a previous thread
which she complained about. Now that she's been
caught clipping critical URLs, it looks like she's the
one who is unwilling to show context. What a
crybaby and a sorehead.
[Donna]
Post by TAR
What the hell is this strange person talking about??
Mommy, mommy, please make him stop! :O
Suddenly you've developed amnesia; you don't
recall complaining about lack of context. Wow.
You must work for the White House.

By the way, this Donna chick keeps changing the
name of the original thread to

"Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)."

I changed it back to the original title:

"Jewish doctor exploits dying George"

Apparently she's concealing something.

Salvador

==== [original thread] ======
Subject: Re: Jewish doctor exploits dying George
From: ***@cs.com (Salastucia)
Date: 5/16/04 6:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <***@mb-m02.news.cs.com>

[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621

Donna was crying the blues, claiming I was quoting
people out of context. Please note that she clipped
the URL to an article about Dr. Gilbert Lederman
and his cancer patient, George Harrison, which
was the basis for this thread and a previous thread
which she complained about. Now that she's been
caught clipping critical URLs, it looks like she's the
one who is unwilling to show context. What a
crybaby and a sorehead.
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001....<snip>
[Donna]
Post by TAR
I [Donna] think that Salvadorwriter is going too
far with this stupid nonsense, and I'd be very
happy if he'd just go away.
Sorry, but it bothers me when people play the Jew
card rather than to discuss things like adults.

Salvador

==== [original article] =====
Subject: Jewish doctor exploits dying George
From: ***@cs.com (Salvadorwriter)
Date: 5/16/04 2:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <***@mb-m05.news.cs.com>

The exchange below is a discussion about the
following article:

Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621

[Someone else posted the article on another thread and
gave it a confusing title. So I'm starting a new thread.]

I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001. Lederman remarked
that George had played Hava Nagila on his death bed,
apparently a show of respect for Lederman. After
posting my comment about George playing Hava Nagila,
some woman (presumably a Jewish woman) verbally
assaulted me for mentioning that Lederman is
Jewish.

Here's the exchange.

=====
[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Post by Salvadorwriter
I don't know if the [National Van Guard]
article [about Dr. Lederman] is completely
true or not, but I recall seeing George's
Jewish doctor on TV a day or two after the
news of George's death was announced to
the world in late 2001.
I recall the doctor (I assume it was Lederman)
saying how he and George had become good
friends. That seems reasonable, under the
circumstances. Then the Yiddish physician said
something quite bizarre. I'm paraphrasing, but
"I brought a guitar to George during his
final hours and asked if he could play
a song for me. So he played Hava Nagila."
Anything's possible, but it's difficult
to imagine George playing a weird song
like Hava Nagila on his death bed.
I don't recall if the doctor said his kids
were present or not, but he definitely
said George played Hava Nagila.
So there seems to be at least a grain of
truth in the article.
Who gives a flying leap if [Dr. Lederman is]
Jewish or not[?]...
[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Post by Salvadorwriter
Apparently you care a great deal. What are you
trying to hide? Lederman's Jewish heritage was
mentioned in the original article, which is the
topic of this thread. In fact, I recall he said
it himself in the TV appearance where he claimed
George played Hava Nagila on his deathbed.
So if you want to [conceal] Lederman's ethnicity,
you're a bit late. The cat's out the bag. :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Huh? :| Wha?? :/ ...You sound terribly nuts.
Tell me, Salvador, why do you pretend to be
normal?
[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Is this broad on Valium, or what? :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Post by TAR
Nope. I just find it absurd that someone would take
another's words and turn it around to suit his own
agenda.
You're the one who made rude remarks over something
completely trivial. "Who gives a flying leap if he's
Jewish or not[?]...You sound terribly nuts."

You started making personal, trivial attacks over
something completely innocent, then you start crying
when I reciprocate. How immature.

[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Post by Salvadorwriter
Lederman's Jewish heritage was mentioned in the
original article, which is the topic of this
thread. In fact, I recall he said it himself
in the TV appearance where he claimed George
played Hava Nagila on his deathbed.
So if you want to [conceal] Lederman's ethnicity,
you're a bit late. The cat's out the bag. :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
What I was trying to say is who the heck cares
what his beliefs are. So now, I guess, you'll
dissect and misinterpret that sentence, too.
[Salvador]
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Relax, Tom/Donna. Don't get your bowels in an
uproar. No one is out to get you. Nobody wants
to cause you any harm. Obviously you're sensitive
about certain issues, and we all are; but let's
not become paranoid, just because I pointed out
that a particular individual is Jewish.
[Tom/Donna]
Post by TAR
Pointing it out was unnecessary and had nothing
to do with this lawsuit or anything that I was
saying....
As I pointed out earlier, you were the one
to take off the gloves and make personal,
insulting remarks. Consequently, I shall
reciprocate. You are a lying fecal-head.
You know good and well that point out
Dr. Lederman's Jewish heritage was
completely relevant to my point that
Lederman claimed George Harrison played
Hava Nagila on his death bed. Assuming George
really did play Hava Nagila, the story doesn't
make sense unless you state that Dr. Lederman
is Jewish. I didn't state it as an insult,
merely a fact that is relevant to the
Hava Nagila story. Then you went ballistic.

Your attitude is a perfect example of what is
wrong with Judaism today. Many Jewish people
have no problem whatsoever attacking and
belittling Christianity or Islam, but if a
Gentile so much as utters the word Jew, he/she
is slammed by assholes like you.

Salvador


===

Ordering information for Salvador Astucia's books can be found at
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/raveningwolf/

(About 150 pages from "Lennon book" (558 pages total) can be viewed
at http://www.jfkmontreal.com )
TAR
2004-05-16 22:48:54 UTC
Permalink
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Salvadorwriter
2004-05-17 05:22:04 UTC
Permalink
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing your
Jewish double standards on everyone else.

Salvador

========
Subject: Re: Jewish doctor exploits dying George
From: ***@cs.com (Salastucia)
Date: 5/16/04 6:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <***@mb-m02.news.cs.com>

[Salvador]
Post by Salvadorwriter
Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621
Donna was crying the blues, claiming I was quoting
people out of context. Please note that she clipped
the URL to an article about Dr. Gilbert Lederman
and his cancer patient, George Harrison, which
was the basis for this thread and a previous thread
which she complained about. Now that she's been
caught clipping critical URLs, it looks like she's the
one who is unwilling to show context. What a
crybaby and a sorehead.
[Donna]
What the hell is this strange person talking about??
Mommy, mommy, please make him stop! :O
Suddenly you've developed amnesia; you don't
recall complaining about lack of context. Wow.
You must work for the White House.

By the way, this Donna chick keeps changing the
name of the original thread to

"Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)."

I changed it back to the original title:

"Jewish doctor exploits dying George"

Apparently she's concealing something.

Salvador

==== [original thread] ======
Subject: Re: Jewish doctor exploits dying George
From: ***@cs.com (Salastucia)
Date: 5/16/04 6:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <***@mb-m02.news.cs.com>

[Salvador]
Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621

Donna was crying the blues, claiming I was quoting
people out of context. Please note that she clipped
the URL to an article about Dr. Gilbert Lederman
and his cancer patient, George Harrison, which
was the basis for this thread and a previous thread
which she complained about. Now that she's been
caught clipping critical URLs, it looks like she's the
one who is unwilling to show context. What a
crybaby and a sorehead.
Post by Salvadorwriter
I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001....<snip>
[Donna]
I [Donna] think that Salvadorwriter is going too
far with this stupid nonsense, and I'd be very
happy if he'd just go away.
Sorry, but it bothers me when people play the Jew
card rather than to discuss things like adults.

Salvador

==== [original article] =====
Subject: Jewish doctor exploits dying George
From: ***@cs.com (Salvadorwriter)
Date: 5/16/04 2:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <***@mb-m05.news.cs.com>

The exchange below is a discussion about the
following article:

Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621

[Someone else posted the article on another thread and
gave it a confusing title. So I'm starting a new thread.]

I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001. Lederman remarked
that George had played Hava Nagila on his death bed,
apparently a show of respect for Lederman. After
posting my comment about George playing Hava Nagila,
some woman (presumably a Jewish woman) verbally
assaulted me for mentioning that Lederman is
Jewish.

Here's the exchange.

=====
[Salvador]
Post by Salvadorwriter
Post by Salvadorwriter
I don't know if the [National Van Guard]
article [about Dr. Lederman] is completely
true or not, but I recall seeing George's
Jewish doctor on TV a day or two after the
news of George's death was announced to
the world in late 2001.
I recall the doctor (I assume it was Lederman)
saying how he and George had become good
friends. That seems reasonable, under the
circumstances. Then the Yiddish physician said
something quite bizarre. I'm paraphrasing, but
"I brought a guitar to George during his
final hours and asked if he could play
a song for me. So he played Hava Nagila."
Anything's possible, but it's difficult
to imagine George playing a weird song
like Hava Nagila on his death bed.
I don't recall if the doctor said his kids
were present or not, but he definitely
said George played Hava Nagila.
So there seems to be at least a grain of
truth in the article.
Who gives a flying leap if [Dr. Lederman is]
Jewish or not[?]...
[Salvador]
Post by Salvadorwriter
Post by Salvadorwriter
Apparently you care a great deal. What are you
trying to hide? Lederman's Jewish heritage was
mentioned in the original article, which is the
topic of this thread. In fact, I recall he said
it himself in the TV appearance where he claimed
George played Hava Nagila on his deathbed.
So if you want to [conceal] Lederman's ethnicity,
you're a bit late. The cat's out the bag. :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Post by Salvadorwriter
Huh? :| Wha?? :/ ...You sound terribly nuts.
Tell me, Salvador, why do you pretend to be
normal?
[Salvador]
Post by Salvadorwriter
Is this broad on Valium, or what? :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Nope. I just find it absurd that someone would take
another's words and turn it around to suit his own
agenda.
You're the one who made rude remarks over something
completely trivial. "Who gives a flying leap if he's
Jewish or not[?]...You sound terribly nuts."

You started making personal, trivial attacks over
something completely innocent, then you start crying
when I reciprocate. How immature.

[Salvador]
Post by Salvadorwriter
Post by Salvadorwriter
Lederman's Jewish heritage was mentioned in the
original article, which is the topic of this
thread. In fact, I recall he said it himself
in the TV appearance where he claimed George
played Hava Nagila on his deathbed.
So if you want to [conceal] Lederman's ethnicity,
you're a bit late. The cat's out the bag. :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Post by Salvadorwriter
What I was trying to say is who the heck cares
what his beliefs are. So now, I guess, you'll
dissect and misinterpret that sentence, too.
[Salvador]
Post by Salvadorwriter
Relax, Tom/Donna. Don't get your bowels in an
uproar. No one is out to get you. Nobody wants
to cause you any harm. Obviously you're sensitive
about certain issues, and we all are; but let's
not become paranoid, just because I pointed out
that a particular individual is Jewish.
[Tom/Donna]
Pointing it out was unnecessary and had nothing
to do with this lawsuit or anything that I was
saying....
As I pointed out earlier, you were the one
to take off the gloves and make personal,
insulting remarks. Consequently, I shall
reciprocate. You are a lying fecal-head.
You know good and well that point out
Dr. Lederman's Jewish heritage was
completely relevant to my point that
Lederman claimed George Harrison played
Hava Nagila on his death bed. Assuming George
really did play Hava Nagila, the story doesn't
make sense unless you state that Dr. Lederman
is Jewish. I didn't state it as an insult,
merely a fact that is relevant to the
Hava Nagila story. Then you went ballistic.

Your attitude is a perfect example of what is
wrong with Judaism today. Many Jewish people
have no problem whatsoever attacking and
belittling Christianity or Islam, but if a
Gentile so much as utters the word Jew, he/she
is slammed by assholes like you.

Salvador



===

Ordering information for Salvador Astucia's books can be found at
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/raveningwolf/

(About 150 pages from "Lennon book" (558 pages total) can be viewed
at http://www.jfkmontreal.com )
TAR
2004-05-17 12:06:12 UTC
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Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors sometimes,
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Teddy
2004-05-17 22:49:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors sometimes,
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Got any pedal-pushers in your closet? Any push-up bras in your dresser
drawers? Anyone said to you lately, "You really know how to push my
buttons!"? For that matter, I bet you have a push-button, ummm,
MICROWAVE. Oooohhh, I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!
TAR
2004-05-17 23:25:04 UTC
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Post by Teddy
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors sometimes,
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Got any pedal-pushers in your closet?
Yes, but I prefer to call them capris.
Post by Teddy
Any push-up bras in your dresser
drawers?
Uh... no comment. :]
Post by Teddy
Anyone said to you lately, "You really know how to push my
buttons!"?
Not really.
Post by Teddy
For that matter, I bet you have a push-button, ummm,
MICROWAVE. Oooohhh, I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!
No, that's the microwavable hotdogs.
Susan
2004-05-18 00:58:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by TAR
Post by Teddy
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors sometimes,
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Got any pedal-pushers in your closet?
Yes, but I prefer to call them capris.
Funny how the older things keep coming back with new names.
Post by TAR
Post by Teddy
Any push-up bras in your dresser
drawers?
Uh... no comment. :]
Post by Teddy
Anyone said to you lately, "You really know how to push my
buttons!"?
Not really.
My boss told me that exact thing the other day.
Post by TAR
Post by Teddy
For that matter, I bet you have a push-button, ummm,
MICROWAVE. Oooohhh, I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!
No, that's the microwavable hotdogs.
I hope you poked them first!
Mister Charlie
2004-05-18 05:50:57 UTC
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Post by Susan
Post by TAR
Post by Teddy
Got any pedal-pushers in your closet?
Yes, but I prefer to call them capris.
Funny how the older things keep coming back with new names.
Not a new name. It's as old as the pants, at least 40 years.
Susan
2004-05-18 09:57:26 UTC
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Post by Mister Charlie
Post by Susan
Post by TAR
Post by Teddy
Got any pedal-pushers in your closet?
Yes, but I prefer to call them capris.
Funny how the older things keep coming back with new names.
Not a new name. It's as old as the pants, at least 40 years.
When I was a kid, they were called pedal-pushers.
Mister Charlie
2004-05-18 14:09:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Susan
Post by Mister Charlie
Post by Susan
Post by TAR
Post by Teddy
Got any pedal-pushers in your closet?
Yes, but I prefer to call them capris.
Funny how the older things keep coming back with new names.
Not a new name. It's as old as the pants, at least 40 years.
When I was a kid, they were called pedal-pushers.
When we were kids they were called capri pants (at least, the tight
legging types were. I don't know what the baggy ones were called.
Pedal pushers I guess.)
Teddy
2004-05-18 20:46:09 UTC
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Post by Mister Charlie
Post by Susan
Post by Mister Charlie
Post by Susan
Post by TAR
Post by Teddy
Got any pedal-pushers in your closet?
Yes, but I prefer to call them capris.
Funny how the older things keep coming back with new names.
Not a new name. It's as old as the pants, at least 40 years.
When I was a kid, they were called pedal-pushers.
When we were kids they were called capri pants (at least, the tight
legging types were. I don't know what the baggy ones were called.
Pedal pushers I guess.)
Clam diggers? Uh-oh: clams--shellfish--not kosher--I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!!
bongo
2004-05-19 20:09:26 UTC
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Post by Teddy
Clam diggers? Uh-oh: clams--shellfish--not kosher--I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!!
No, no, that's just the clams.

We could open a window, if you like?


cheers,
--doctor strangenose
Susan
2004-05-18 00:57:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Teddy
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors sometimes,
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Got any pedal-pushers in your closet? Any push-up bras in your dresser
drawers? Anyone said to you lately, "You really know how to push my
buttons!"? For that matter, I bet you have a push-button, ummm,
MICROWAVE. Oooohhh, I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!
I think you should look into it further.
I'll have my people fund the research.
Teddy
2004-05-18 06:23:47 UTC
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Post by Susan
Post by Teddy
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors sometimes,
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Got any pedal-pushers in your closet? Any push-up bras in your dresser
drawers? Anyone said to you lately, "You really know how to push my
buttons!"? For that matter, I bet you have a push-button, ummm,
MICROWAVE. Oooohhh, I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!
I think you should look into it further.
I'll have my people fund the research.
Excellent! Spare no expense. Bug every men's room in Gaithersburg. And
a few of the women's rooms, just in case Sharpie gets a Victoria's
Secret catalog and orders a push-up bra and some pedal pushers.
Mister Charlie
2004-05-18 06:30:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Teddy
Post by Susan
Post by Teddy
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors
sometimes,
Post by Teddy
Post by Susan
Post by Teddy
Post by TAR
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Got any pedal-pushers in your closet? Any push-up bras in your dresser
drawers? Anyone said to you lately, "You really know how to push my
buttons!"? For that matter, I bet you have a push-button, ummm,
MICROWAVE. Oooohhh, I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!
I think you should look into it further.
I'll have my people fund the research.
Excellent! Spare no expense. Bug every men's room in Gaithersburg. And
a few of the women's rooms, just in case Sharpie gets a Victoria's
Secret catalog and orders a push-up bra and some pedal pushers.
With his severe self-esteem issues I would not be at all surprised.
Susan
2004-05-18 09:59:17 UTC
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Post by Teddy
Post by Susan
Post by Teddy
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors sometimes,
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Got any pedal-pushers in your closet? Any push-up bras in your dresser
drawers? Anyone said to you lately, "You really know how to push my
buttons!"? For that matter, I bet you have a push-button, ummm,
MICROWAVE. Oooohhh, I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!
I think you should look into it further.
I'll have my people fund the research.
Excellent! Spare no expense. Bug every men's room in Gaithersburg. And
a few of the women's rooms, just in case Sharpie gets a Victoria's
Secret catalog and orders a push-up bra and some pedal pushers.
Already done. The rest areas are taken care of also.
MacBeatle
2004-05-18 03:05:41 UTC
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Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Apparently not, Donna/TAR. I take him
seriously
and what's all this bullshit flirting, huh?

Scoping out my guy, maybe just a tad?


(Sal, i think...)
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors sometimes,
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Uh huh. Word up, girlfriend.
You mess with the bull, ya get the horns.

You don't wanna mess with my horns.
TIDDLATIOUS: Got any pedal-pushers in your closet? Any push-up bras
in your dresser
drawers? Anyone said to you lately, "You really know how to push my
buttons!"? For that matter, I bet you have a push-button, ummm,
MICROWAVE. Oooohhh, I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!
It's been a long long long
Time...

or has it.

Tedster, you've hit the note, girly.

Yes, as a matter
of Fax
Someone has said just that... Today

One sweet dream came thru today.

Score one for the Jewish Conspiracy Theorists.

;-)))) ~*~ ((((-8
TAR
2004-05-18 03:22:25 UTC
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Post by MacBeatle
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Apparently not, Donna/TAR.
Since when do you call me Donna/TAR, Francie?
Post by MacBeatle
I take him
seriously
and what's all this bullshit flirting, huh?
Scoping out my guy, maybe just a tad?
Enter Twilight Zone music.
Post by MacBeatle
(Sal, i think...)
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors sometimes,
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Uh huh. Word up, girlfriend.
You mess with the bull, ya get the horns.
You don't wanna mess with my horns.
And here comes Rod Serling.
Salvadorwriter
2004-05-18 06:22:46 UTC
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Post by TAR
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally
have tears in my eyes. You take yourself sooooo
seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Apparently not, Donna/TAR. I take him seriously
and what's all this bullshit flirting, huh?
Scoping out my guy, maybe just a tad?
Actually, she's apparently in love with Dr. Gilbert
Lederman. She's bending over backwards to
protect him. (Does she do that often? :-)

"[Dr. Gilbert Lederman] Exploits Dying Beatle to His
Last Breath, and Beyond"

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621

Salvador

===

Ordering information for Salvador Astucia's books can be found at
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/raveningwolf/

(About 150 pages from "Lennon book" (558 pages total) can be viewed
at http://www.jfkmontreal.com )
Teddy
2004-05-18 15:16:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Salvadorwriter
Post by TAR
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally
have tears in my eyes. You take yourself sooooo
seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Apparently not, Donna/TAR. I take him seriously
and what's all this bullshit flirting, huh?
Scoping out my guy, maybe just a tad?
Actually, she's apparently in love with Dr. Gilbert
Lederman. She's bending over backwards to
protect him. (Does she do that often? :-)
Hey Francid, don't look now, but your boyfriend's a Nazi. With a
playground sensibility. Nobody takes him seriously because he's still
talking like Pee Wee Herman. oooooohhhhhh, Paul Ruebens is a JEW!!! I
smell CONSPIRACY!!!!!
MacBeatle
2004-05-20 03:26:03 UTC
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Post by Salvadorwriter
Post by TAR
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally
have tears in my eyes. You take yourself sooooo
seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Apparently not, Donna/TAR. I take him seriously
and what's all this bullshit flirting, huh?
Scoping out my guy, maybe just a tad?
Actually, she's apparently in love with Dr. Gilbert
Lederman. She's bending over backwards to
protect him. (Does she do that often? :-)
Only when she has an Xtreme case of the Nasty
Blue Thingies for some young goy...

But yeah, she definitely stretches credulity every
time the subject of the Jew doc and his media mis-
management
of George's deathbed scene comes up.

Do you suppose it's worth a closer look?

... Nah.

;!!)))))))>;
TAR
2004-05-20 04:07:54 UTC
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Post by Salvadorwriter
<snip>
But yeah, she definitely stretches credulity every
time the subject of the Jew doc and his media mis-
management
of George's deathbed scene comes up.
Do you suppose it's worth a closer look?
... Nah.
;!!)))))))>;
You could put away your bifocals because I've already explained it many
times. As I said, I'm in a unique situation in that I am friends with
the parties on both sides of this now settled lawsuit. I know the
facts, and I don't like to see that an innocent person is still being
falsely accused. It's quite simple.
Mister Charlie
2004-05-20 06:27:48 UTC
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Post by MacBeatle
Post by Salvadorwriter
Post by TAR
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally
have tears in my eyes. You take yourself sooooo
seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Apparently not, Donna/TAR. I take him seriously
and what's all this bullshit flirting, huh?
Scoping out my guy, maybe just a tad?
Actually, she's apparently in love with Dr. Gilbert
Lederman. She's bending over backwards to
protect him. (Does she do that often? :-)
Only when she has an Xtreme case of the Nasty
Blue Thingies for some young goy...
But yeah, she definitely stretches credulity every
time the subject of the Jew doc and his media mis-
management
of George's deathbed scene comes up.
Do you suppose it's worth a closer look?
... Nah.
;!!)))))))>;
Say, look! The female vulture is casting about for scraps.
Teddy
2004-05-18 15:10:26 UTC
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Post by MacBeatle
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Apparently not, Donna/TAR. I take him
seriously
and what's all this bullshit flirting, huh?
Scoping out my guy, maybe just a tad?
(Sal, i think...)
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors sometimes,
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Uh huh. Word up, girlfriend.
You mess with the bull, ya get the horns.
You don't wanna mess with my horns.
TIDDLATIOUS: Got any pedal-pushers in your closet? Any push-up bras
in your dresser
drawers? Anyone said to you lately, "You really know how to push my
buttons!"? For that matter, I bet you have a push-button, ummm,
MICROWAVE. Oooohhh, I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!
It's been a long long long
Time...
or has it.
Tedster, you've hit the note, girly.
Yes, as a matter
of Fax
Someone has said just that... Today
One sweet dream came thru today.
Score one for the Jewish Conspiracy Theorists.
;-)))) ~*~ ((((-8
Uhhh.... Schwarz?
MacBeatle
2004-05-20 03:20:40 UTC
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Post by Teddy
Uhhh.... Schwarz?
Unnhhhhhh, Wot wot?
Teddy
2004-05-20 12:39:11 UTC
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Post by MacBeatle
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Subject: Re: Salvadorwriter won't give up ( Was Re: blah, blah, blah)
Date: 5/16/04 6:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Salastucia, you make me laugh so hard, I literally have tears in my
eyes. You take yourself sooooo seriously. Apparently, you're the only
one here who does.
Apparently not, Donna/TAR. I take him
seriously
and what's all this bullshit flirting, huh?
Scoping out my guy, maybe just a tad?
(Sal, i think...)
Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
Whatever. At least you've stopped pushing
Pushing? I'm not a pusher. Well, okay, I do push doors sometimes,
maybe. A baby carriage a while back. Maybe even my bicycle pedals.
But I can't say that I like doing push-ups; I much prefer hand weights.
Uh huh. Word up, girlfriend.
You mess with the bull, ya get the horns.
You don't wanna mess with my horns.
TIDDLATIOUS: Got any pedal-pushers in your closet? Any push-up bras
in your dresser
drawers? Anyone said to you lately, "You really know how to push my
buttons!"? For that matter, I bet you have a push-button, ummm,
MICROWAVE. Oooohhh, I smell a CONSPIRACY!!!
It's been a long long long
Time...
or has it.
Tedster, you've hit the note, girly.
Yes, as a matter
of Fax
Someone has said just that... Today
One sweet dream came thru today.
Score one for the Jewish Conspiracy Theorists.
;-)))) ~*~ ((((-8
Schwarz: one more time, in English? I think you're actually agreeing with me.
Teddy
2004-05-17 16:14:18 UTC
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Hey Sharpie, when you keep doing reprints of your original bit of
anti-Semitic nonsense, it doesn't help your cause. It isn't more
convincing the fifth time around. I bet most of us scroll right past
it. So whatever the other Nazis told you about subliminal
messages---fawgeddabowdet!
Susan
2004-05-17 00:59:51 UTC
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Post by TAR
Post by Salvadorwriter
[Salvador]
Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621
Donna was crying the blues, claiming I was quoting
people out of context. Please note that she clipped
the URL to an article about Dr. Gilbert Lederman
and his cancer patient, George Harrison, which
was the basis for this thread and a previous thread
which she complained about. Now that she's been
caught clipping critical URLs, it looks like she's the
one who is unwilling to show context. What a
crybaby and a sorehead.
What the hell is this strange person talking about?? Mommy, mommy,
please make him stop! :O
Post by Salvadorwriter
Sorry, but it bothers me when people play the Jew
card rather than to discuss things like adults.
Salvador
I only like to play poker. I used to play War and 500 Rummy when I
younger. But poker is all I pretty much enjoy now... especially on the
slots.
- Donna
I still enjoy a game of Rummy 500 on occasion. :)
TAR
2004-05-17 03:05:07 UTC
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Post by Susan
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Post by Salastucia
Sorry, but it bothers me when people play the Jew
card rather than to discuss things like adults.
Salvador
I only like to play poker. I used to play War and 500 Rummy when I
was younger. But poker is all I pretty much enjoy now... especially on the
slots.
- Donna
I still enjoy a game of Rummy 500 on occasion. :)
I can't really remember how to play it. I used to play it all the time
with my friend when we were around 11 years old. We probably played it
all wrong, though.

Keeping on topic, I wonder if they sell or sold Beatle playing cards
anywhere.

- Donna
Teddy
2004-05-17 01:51:50 UTC
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Post by Salastucia
Sorry, but it bothers me when people play the Jew
card rather than to discuss things like adults.
Salvador
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Oh, Sharpie, that's a good one! With your utterly
charmless personality and the world view of an ant, you have no
business wanting to discuss anything deeper than the new Mary-Kate and
Ashley movie.
Phred
2004-05-17 19:20:11 UTC
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Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001....<snip>
I [Donna] think that Salvadorwriter is going too far with this stupid
nonsense, and I'd be very happy if he'd just go away.
He can't. He has nowhere else to go. Stuck. In cyberspace where he
can only say things like "I can't tell you but I know it's mine."
ansermetniac
2004-05-16 21:13:03 UTC
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Post by Salvadorwriter
The exchange below is a discussion about the
Jew Exploits Dying Beatle to His Last Breath, and Beyond
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=1621
[Someone else posted the article on another thread and
gave it a confusing title. So I'm starting a new thread.]
I [Salvador] commented that I saw George Harrison's
Jewish physician, Dr. Gilbert Lederman (the subject
of the article above), on the TV news shortly after
George passed away in late 2001. Lederman remarked
that George had played Hava Nagila on his death bed,
apparently a show of respect for Lederman. After
posting my comment about George playing Hava Nagila,
some woman (presumably a Jewish woman) verbally
assaulted me for mentioning that Lederman is
Jewish.
Here's the exchange.
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[Salvador]
I don't know if the [National Van Guard]
article [about Dr. Lederman] is completely
true or not, but I recall seeing George's
Jewish doctor on TV a day or two after the
news of George's death was announced to
the world in late 2001.
I recall the doctor (I assume it was Lederman)
saying how he and George had become good
friends. That seems reasonable, under the
circumstances. Then the Yiddish physician said
something quite bizarre. I'm paraphrasing, but
"I brought a guitar to George during his
final hours and asked if he could play
a song for me. So he played Hava Nagila."
Anything's possible, but it's difficult
to imagine George playing a weird song
like Hava Nagila on his death bed.
I don't recall if the doctor said his kids
were present or not, but he definitely
said George played Hava Nagila.
So there seems to be at least a grain of
truth in the article.
Who gives a flying leap if [Dr. Lederman is]
Jewish or not[?]...
[Salvador]
Apparently you care a great deal. What are you
trying to hide? Lederman's Jewish heritage was
mentioned in the original article, which is the
topic of this thread. In fact, I recall he said
it himself in the TV appearance where he claimed
George played Hava Nagila on his deathbed.
So if you want to [conceal] Lederman's ethnicity,
you're a bit late. The cat's out the bag. :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Huh? :| Wha?? :/ ...You sound terribly nuts.
Tell me, Salvador, why do you pretend to be
normal?
[Salvador]
Is this broad on Valium, or what? :-)
[Tom/Donna]
Nope. I just find it absurd that someone would take
another's words and turn it around to suit his own
agenda.
You're the one who made rude remarks over something
completely trivial. "Who gives a flying leap if he's
Jewish or not[?]...You sound terribly nuts."
You started making personal, trivial attacks over
something completely innocent, then you start crying
when I reciprocate. How immature.
[Salvador]
Lederman's Jewish heritage was mentioned in the
original article, which is the topic of this
thread. In fact, I recall he said it himself
in the TV appearance where he claimed George
played Hava Nagila on his deathbed.
So if you want to [conceal] Lederman's ethnicity,
you're a bit late. The cat's out the bag. :-)
[Tom/Donna]
What I was trying to say is who the heck cares
what his beliefs are. So now, I guess, you'll
dissect and misinterpret that sentence, too.
[Salvador]
Relax, Tom/Donna. Don't get your bowels in an
uproar. No one is out to get you. Nobody wants
to cause you any harm. Obviously you're sensitive
about certain issues, and we all are; but let's
not become paranoid, just because I pointed out
that a particular individual is Jewish.
[Tom/Donna]
Pointing it out was unnecessary and had nothing
to do with this lawsuit or anything that I was
saying....
As I pointed out earlier, you were the one
to take off the gloves and make personal,
insulting remarks. Consequently, I shall
reciprocate. You are a lying fecal-head.
You know good and well that point out
Dr. Lederman's Jewish heritage was
completely relevant to my point that
Lederman claimed George Harrison played
Hava Nagila on his death bed. Assuming George
really did play Hava Nagila, the story doesn't
make sense unless you state that Dr. Lederman
is Jewish. I didn't state it as an insult,
merely a fact that is relevant to the
Hava Nagila story. Then you went ballistic.
Your attitude is a perfect example of what is
wrong with Judaism today. Many Jewish people
have no problem whatsoever attacking and
belittling Christianity or Islam, but if a
Gentile so much as utters the word Jew, he/she
is slammed by assholes like you.
Salvador
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Ordering information for Salvador Astucia's books can be found at
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/raveningwolf/
(About 150 pages from "Lennon book" (558 pages total) can be viewed
at http://www.jfkmontreal.com )
Here is a better headline for that website

"Congress: WASP Lawyers ruin country with corrupt ways and
incompetence"

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