Yoko on Paul's and John's Relative Talents

[Norbert]

"Paul was the Salieri to John's Mozart" -- Yoko. Anyone remember that?

The funny thing is, Yoko wqs eager, in private, to sneer at Lennon's musical ability and to deem herself the "real songwriter" of John and Yoko. David Spinozza, studio guitarist extraordinaire, is one person to whom she subjected this delusional stupidity.

No; Yoko made this dubious comparison because she was eager to "get back" at Paul, all these ecades later, for snubbing her advances.

[pamina58]

I think one way Yoko got her claws into John was to deceive him into thinking she could give him his original destiny, which was as an heir to Mozart. She then used that hook to try to steal everything for herself

[Norbert]

If you read Pete Shotton's firsthand account, John decided overnight to move in with Yoko. John and Yoko had made drug-fried home recordings and then had sex. The next morning, John wanted to live with Yoko. "Just like that, John?" a bewildered Shotton asked him. "Just like that!" John insisted.

To my mind, the most telling thing about the episode is that John wasn't in his right mind. He had summoned Yoko to his home just hours after telling his bandmates that he wanted to hold a press conference to announce to the world that he was Jesus Christ.

[pamina58]

Per Cynthia in her book "John", Yoko had been pursuing John for some time, but she just didn't pick up on the clues. I think John had taken Yoko's bait by the time they returned from India and he let loose on Cynthia with his infidelities.

[Norbert]

Poor Cynthia must have been tortured by John's on-again, off-again attitudes towards her. She mentions in one of her books that John became extremely blissful at one point at Rishikesh, telling her he couldn't wait for them to be reuited with Julian again.

Then, of course, there was the nasty, enraged John on the flight back.

Did anything in India happen to make John more susceptible to Yoko? Yoko had been sending him her demented "instruction poems," IIRC. I can't imagine Cynthia saw them as anything more than a nut's babbling.

Perhaps, on learning that he had been duped by the Maharishi, Lennon had decided that he needed to find some new guru -- who of course turned out to be Yoko.

[pamina58]

Cynthia lived in a dream world, until it crashed in on her...

[Norbert]

Well, Cynthia later insisted that John had been discrete about hiding things from her until the plane ride back to India.

Their driver, Les Anthony, also admitted in one of his writings that as far as he knew (prior to Yoko's entrance into Lennon's wife), Lennon was happy with Cynthia.

[Norbert]

Oops! I meant "plane ride back *from* India."

[pamina58]

From what I can see, Cynthia seemed to think she had a 'dream marriage' while John saw it as a marriage of convenience. She was blind to the clues...

[Norbert]

60 Minutes had a great segment some decades ago titled "The Two Mrs. Lennons," based on the true crime story of The Two Mrs. Grenviles," by Dominick Dunne which was actually about the Woodward family.

Cynthia was frank (unlike the deceitful Yoko) in this piece, about Lennon slipping away through drug use.

Cynthia was ignorant of Lennon's affairs, till he overwhelmed her with information about them.

[pamina58]

I think they were both controlling...

[Norbert]

Cynthia? No, I don't think she was controlling at all.

[pamina58]

Cynthia did manage to snag someone who had no intention of getting married...

[Norbert]

It's John's fault he didn't use condoms -- which had been around since at least as far back as Ben Franklin's time (I know because I remember quotes from Franklin praising the invention -- albeit of sheep intestine during his time).

[pamina58]

I think there are two sides to this...

[Norbert]

Oh, come on. It's easier for a guy to buy a pack of condoms than it is fpr a female to get the Pill.